Wang Peng-Hsiang
我跟那隻怪物同事12年,我來告訴你怪物是如何煉成的:
每周工作7天,每天工作16小時,你在吃飯睡覺滑手機發廢文的時候,他在讀書查資料跑統計寫文章。
怪物就是這樣煉成的,你再怎麼修煉也不會變成跟牠同等級的怪物。
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Suilin Lee
2011年 黃國昌就提出國會改革了:改造國會-選制改革
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《改造國會,終結亂象》研討會(二)選制改革─蘇彥圖
《改造國會,終結亂象》研討會(二)選制改革─蘇彥圖
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Liu Kai Hong
Suilin Lee 呃….你分享這段影片的講者蘇彥圖,現在就在要求法案退回委員會審查的法律學者連署名單中耶!而且還是黃國昌的大學同學,為何現在會反對黃國昌主導的修法呢?
難道國昌也被權力給腐化了嗎?
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Kuo Jiahao
柳凱宏 怎麼不說可能是另外一個人被腐化?
28' xlink:href='%23b'/%3e%3cuse fill='black' filter='url(%23c)' xlink:href='%23b'/%3e%3cpath fill='url(%23d)' d='M3 8.008C3 10.023 4.006 14 8 14c3.993 0 5-3.977 5-5.992C13 7.849 11.39 7 8 7c-3.39 0-5 .849-5 1.008'/%3e%3cpath fill='url(%23e)' d='M4.541 12.5c.804.995 1.907 1.5 3.469 1.5 1.563 0 2.655-.505 3.459-1.5-.551-.588-1.599-1.5-3.459-1.5s-2.917.912-3.469 1.5'/%3e%3cpath fill='%232A3755' d='M6.213 4.144c.263.188.502.455.41.788-.071.254-.194.369-.422.371-.78.011-1.708.255-2.506.612-.065.029-.197.088-.332.085-.124-.003-.251-.058-.327-.237-.067-.157-.073-.388.276-.598.545-.33 1.257-.48 1.909-.604a7.077 7.077 0 00-1.315-.768c-.427-.194-.38-.457-.323-.6.127-.317.609-.196 1.078.026a9 9 0 011.552.925zm3.577 0a8.953 8.953 0 011.55-.925c.47-.222.95-.343 1.078-.026.057.143.104.406-.323.6a7.029 7.029 0 00-1.313.768c.65.123 1.363.274 1.907.604.349.21.342.44.276.598-.077.18-.203.234-.327.237-.135.003-.267-.056-.332-.085-.797-.357-1.725-.6-2.504-.612-.228-.002-.351-.117-.422-.37-.091-.333.147-.6.41-.788z'/%3e%3c/g%3e%3c/svg%3e)
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Liu Kai Hong
Kuo Jiahao 您是說蘇彥圖嗎?您可以比較Suilin 提供的影片,跟上面我轉貼的,蘇彥圖先生接受范琪斐訪問的影片啊!沒有比較就隨便說人家腐化,難怪國昌粉絲這麼多
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ChiungYi Tsai
Liu Kai Hong 應該是蘇彥圖被收買了?2011年需要改造國會,2024就不需要了?誰才是始終如一的人?
28' xlink:href='%23b'/%3e%3cuse fill='black' filter='url(%23c)' xlink:href='%23b'/%3e%3cpath fill='url(%23d)' d='M3 8.008C3 10.023 4.006 14 8 14c3.993 0 5-3.977 5-5.992C13 7.849 11.39 7 8 7c-3.39 0-5 .849-5 1.008'/%3e%3cpath fill='url(%23e)' d='M4.541 12.5c.804.995 1.907 1.5 3.469 1.5 1.563 0 2.655-.505 3.459-1.5-.551-.588-1.599-1.5-3.459-1.5s-2.917.912-3.469 1.5'/%3e%3cpath fill='%232A3755' d='M6.213 4.144c.263.188.502.455.41.788-.071.254-.194.369-.422.371-.78.011-1.708.255-2.506.612-.065.029-.197.088-.332.085-.124-.003-.251-.058-.327-.237-.067-.157-.073-.388.276-.598.545-.33 1.257-.48 1.909-.604a7.077 7.077 0 00-1.315-.768c-.427-.194-.38-.457-.323-.6.127-.317.609-.196 1.078.026a9 9 0 011.552.925zm3.577 0a8.953 8.953 0 011.55-.925c.47-.222.95-.343 1.078-.026.057.143.104.406-.323.6a7.029 7.029 0 00-1.313.768c.65.123 1.363.274 1.907.604.349.21.342.44.276.598-.077.18-.203.234-.327.237-.135.003-.267-.056-.332-.085-.797-.357-1.725-.6-2.504-.612-.228-.002-.351-.117-.422-.37-.091-.333.147-.6.41-.788z'/%3e%3c/g%3e%3c/svg%3e)
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Suilin Lee
Liu Kai Hong蘇彥圖當年支持改革,因為當年在野的民進黨支持改革,現在他反對改革,是因為現在執政的民進黨反對改革。可見,他支持的是民進黨的利益,而不是台灣的利益,這麼簡單你還看不出。
黃國昌是從2011年,2012年開始提出國會改革,一直到現在,勿忘初心。變的,是腐化的民進黨和那些盲綠
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Liu Kai Hong
ChiungYi Tsai 哇!原來蘇彥圖被收買,請問您的根據是什麼?
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Liu Kai Hong
Suilin Lee 您有看我在上面轉貼的訪談嗎?為何您可以如此簡單的講出,蘇支持的是民進黨的利益?學者們的聲明是支持將法法案退回至委員會仔細審查,這種叫做反對改革?您有閱讀障礙嗎?
更別說多年前的黃國昌支持委員會中心主義,這次的法案審議有這樣做嗎?你高中沒有讀過公民嗎?公民課本都有寫立法院修法的歷程耶!
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Suilin Lee
Liu Kai Hong要看他是否一個有風骨的學者,首先看他有沒有勇氣指責過去8年,民進黨是如何在立法院橫行霸道和碾壓的。
一起來記憶民進黨過去仗着人多如何濫用議事規則:
甚或讓人印象深刻的,是具有爭議性的公投法修正草案(公投與大選脫鉤的規定),乃趁著國民黨立委以為開會終了、紛紛離席的時機,民進黨蔣絜安委員趁機提案突襲「逕付二讀」,當時還被綠委大讚是「天賜良機」而沾沾自喜。
這一切,民進黨都忘了嗎?
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' xlink:href='%23b'/%3e%3cuse fill='black' filter='url(%23c)' xlink:href='%23b'/%3e%3cpath fill='white' d='M12.162 7.338c.176.123.338.245.338.674 0 .43-.229.604-.474.725a.73.73 0 01.089.546c-.077.344-.392.611-.672.69.121.194.159.385.015.62-.185.295-.346.407-1.058.407H7.5c-.988 0-1.5-.546-1.5-1V7.665c0-1.23 1.467-2.275 1.467-3.13L7.361 3.47c-.005-.065.008-.224.058-.27.08-.079.301-.2.635-.2.218 0 .363.041.534.123.581.277.732.978.732 1.542 0 .271-.414 1.083-.47 1.364 0 0 .867-.192 1.879-.199 1.061-.006 1.749.19 1.749.842 0 .261-.219.523-.316.666zM3.6 7h.8a.6.6 0 01.6.6v3.8a.6.6 0 01-.6.6h-.8a.6.6 0 01-.6-.6V7.6a.6.6 0 01.6-.6z'/%3e%3c/g%3e%3c/svg%3e)
Suilin Lee
Ling Xiao對呀,半句也不敢指責民進黨在國會的碾壓,果然是綠能你不能
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Hiroshi Luo
柳凱宏 人家有仔細審查啊,哪裡沒有?民進黨80個臨時動議民進黨自己都不知道在審什麼了黃國昌依然逐條審查,你要確定欸
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Hiroshi Luo
Hung Tony 所以你在國會聽證席上請律師幹啥?是你要答詢還是律師答詢?
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Hiroshi Luo
Hung Tony 這就是你搞笑的地方,證人本來就不需要律師,除非,你是嫌疑人。萬一上去的是嫌疑人,自然會有律師囉。
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李世文
柳凱宏 突然覺得好多事實還是說“八卦”的料可以挖出來對比
Hiroshi Luo
Hung Tony 現行制度萬一你從證人變成嫌疑人,經法院啥鬼的程序,就會給你時間找律師,沒記錯的話,所以自然會有經院長同意就有律師啊,那代表你已經從證人的身份變成嫌疑人囉
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Hiroshi Luo
Hung Tony 問題聽證會上的身份就是證人,既不是告訴人也不是被告,等到被抓包有犯罪嫌疑才會進入司法程序變成被告啊,是在哈囉?
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Carstein Wei
你們真的有搞懂大家反對的方向嗎?大家反對的是粗糙的改革而不是反改革,不要這樣偷換概念。
今天藍白通過的法案就是有模糊空間,有心人士就是可以濫用它來針對民間集團、法人、部隊。
今天藍白兩黨明明聽到了人民懷疑的聲音,卻不願意緩下來修正好讓民進黨承受民意的尖口,反而硬輾不演,就是把人民當成是智障阿。
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Liu Kai Hong
Suilin Lee 您上面提到的三個法案在委員會有不讓少數黨討論及發言、不讓少數黨版本出委員會等情況嗎?
更別說「天賜良機」這句話,就是苗栗縣長劉政鴻在劉藥房事件時,趁著老闆上台北抗議時,直接強拆民宅,你怎麼不說劉政鴻也沾沾自喜呢?
Liu Kai Hong
Hiroshi Luo 在司法委員會時,吳宗憲當召委時,民進黨方針對國眾黨版本提出異議時,吳宗憲直接保留送院會;鍾佳濱當召委時,要討論民進黨版本,國眾兩黨直接提散會,不僅無法討論民進黨版本,更無法送出院會,這樣的過程中有逐條審查?你要確定捏!
到底有沒有看國昌老師最喜歡的IVOD啦!真不用功!
Liu Kai Hong
Hiroshi Luo 對了!聽說三讀通過的國昌最高秘密版本,連處罰的金額前面連「新台幣」這三個字都沒有加進去,真怕到時候是不是罰人民幣呢!真不愧是民法專家寫出的法案!這個版本和委員會送出的版本完全不同呢!笑死!
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Carstein Wei
所以呢?現在強推一個沒有民意基礎、可能被釋憲退回來的爛版本有意義嗎?說白一點,藍營生生浪費了一次落實改革的機會,並且把民意的刀子重新遞還給民進黨。
Liu Kai Hong
魏廷安 這些出來連署的法律學者就是因為立法品質及過程很粗糙,結果一堆蔥粉還是看不懂,還一直把國蔥的直播當寶,台灣人真的很好騙
Hiroshi Luo
柳凱宏 張藥房啦,不要好像只有你覺得劉政鴻很靠北,後來經過法院判決也原地重建,一個2012卡到現在的法案在那邊裝死,過關了才要出來哭,然後以前幹同樣的事就裝沒事,有夠難看
YOUTUBE.COM
黑箱審查?一般民眾也會被罰?民進黨為什麼這麼愛說謊
黑箱審查?一般民眾也會被罰?民進黨為什麼這麼愛說謊
Liu Kai Hong
Artemis Entreri 認真在委員會討論,再出來二讀、三讀,應該只需要三個月,如果大小藍沒這麼急,就不會有這麼多人上街!
更別說現在大小藍只要廢監察院、不廢考試院的目的,就是要將彈劾權收入立委手中,根本是為了自己的利益考量,而非國家利益!
Suilin Lee
Liu Kai Hong1. 劉政鴻處理過程當然是錯,我當年也是和民進黨立場一樣是罵國民黨啊。
2. 好,那你現在願意也罵民進黨在立法院橫行霸道碾壓嗎?不要雙標喔,不要綠能你不能喔
Suilin Lee
Carstein Wei沒有民意基礎?民眾黨和民進黨的立委是民選的,他們有60成民意基礎喔
Suilin Lee
Liu Kai Hong難道你人在台灣,會滑坡到覺得會以人民幣算?你是統派嗎?
Liu Kai Hong
Hiroshi Luo 謝謝你的指正!事情很久記錯了!
不過請問你確定下面這樣的歷程叫做逐條審查嗎?你到底有沒有用功看國昌老師最喜歡的IVOD啦?
在司法委員會時,吳宗憲當召委時,民進黨方針對國眾黨版本提出異議時,吳宗憲直接保留送院會;鍾佳濱當召委時,要討論民進黨版本,國眾兩黨直接提散會,不僅無法討論民進黨版本,更無法送出院會。
Suilin Lee
Liu Kai Hong那時國民黨要求民進黨的版本應召開公聽會,請問,民進黨幹嘛不召開公聽會?
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Suilin Lee
Artemis Entreri認同,其實我也覺得最好是大家一起坐下來討論,反正民進黨和民眾黨以前都支持國會改革, 難得念國民黨這次也支持國會改革, 那不是應該可以有很好的共識嗎? 不過看了國會直播,你會發現民進黨根本不想討論。
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Liu Kai Hong
Suilin Lee 我會講這個是立法品質的嚴謹程度,如果連新台幣都沒寫,不就代表立法過程很倉促,這樣立法品質會好?不要笑死人了!
還有,你怎麼會覺得這個問題很單純,如果立法品質不好,社會上就會有人受害,負面的效果難道是這些立委承受嗎?不要開玩笑了!
Liu Kai Hong
Suilin Lee 你先回答我的問題,我在回答你的問題,我問A,你反問B,這樣是要怎麼討論下去?
Carstein Wei
Suilin Lee 好吧,那一長串的回答,你只想看到民意基礎,那就這樣吧。
ChiungYi Tsai
Liu Kai Hong 依照你的邏輯啊!你都可以說黃國昌受到權利的誘惑了,那你的根據是什麼?
Liu Kai Hong
ChiungYi Tsai 是你說蘇彥圖被收買,我才會請教您的根據是什麼?我沒有說國昌老師被收買啊!
看來你完全不知道,蘇彥圖老師的專業是公法,哈佛大學博士,現任中研院法律所研究員,父親是前大法官,從未參與政治,而且是國昌老師的大學同班同學,結果你懷疑蘇老師被收買?
要討論事情沒有客觀根據,只憑主觀想法,這樣的討論沒意義吧?
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Liu Kai Hong
ChiungYi Tsai 你為何喜歡講我沒有說過的話,當作是我說的?我一直問你的是,你認為蘇被收買,但你一直提不出任何根據,只憑主觀想法,更別說蘇沒有出任任何政治職務,這哪裡是我的邏輯,根本是你一廂情願的想法!
黃自身就持有多筆畸零地,根本是在炒作土地的高手,然後一堆智障還在跟在他屁股後面參加居住正義的遊行,還捐款給他,真的很好笑!更別說自詡清廉的柯文哲,還炒作特農地!你是不是假裝不懂?
當你只會在我問A時回答B,甚至亂將你的話當作是我講的,我都要懷疑是你的閱讀能力有問題,還是你的表達能力有問題?
曲皓皓
Chia-Yi Yen
真是太離譜了
都不用睡
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Wei Lin
陳秋汝
李四瑞
世界偉人國昌老師
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Wei-ming Chuang
國昌老師就是這麼優秀,才能被傅皇摸頭啊!
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Li-Hua Lan
Wei-ming Chuang 那苗博雅摸賴神的頭,到底顯現誰是這麼優秀呢?
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Wei-ming Chuang
Li-Hua Lan 苗博雅能給賴總統什麼好處? 蔥粉連權力關係都搞不清楚,笑死!
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楊亭皓
Wei-ming Chuang傅現在是國民黨立委總召,黃跟他合作推動民進黨跳票的法案有什麼問題?煙粉連職務關係都搞不清楚,笑死
17' xlink:href='%23b'/%3e%3cuse fill='black' filter='url(%23c)' xlink:href='%23b'/%3e%3cpath fill='white' d='M12.162 7.338c.176.123.338.245.338.674 0 .43-.229.604-.474.725a.73.73 0 01.089.546c-.077.344-.392.611-.672.69.121.194.159.385.015.62-.185.295-.346.407-1.058.407H7.5c-.988 0-1.5-.546-1.5-1V7.665c0-1.23 1.467-2.275 1.467-3.13L7.361 3.47c-.005-.065.008-.224.058-.27.08-.079.301-.2.635-.2.218 0 .363.041.534.123.581.277.732.978.732 1.542 0 .271-.414 1.083-.47 1.364 0 0 .867-.192 1.879-.199 1.061-.006 1.749.19 1.749.842 0 .261-.219.523-.316.666zM3.6 7h.8a.6.6 0 01.6.6v3.8a.6.6 0 01-.6.6h-.8a.6.6 0 01-.6-.6V7.6a.6.6 0 01.6-.6z'/%3e%3c/g%3e%3c/svg%3e)
楊亭皓
Wei-ming Chuang幫忙賴桶造謠帶風向啊,兩兆前坑這個咖小到現在都沒刪文道歉欸
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Wei-ming Chuang
楊亭皓 我很樂見他們繼續合作,這樣才能驗證國蔥怪物有多優秀嘛!
加油啦!傅黃萬歲萬萬歲!
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楊亭皓
Wei-ming Chuang民進黨也能跟黃合作提法案啊,像那個廢煎茶院之類的,不過啊,沒用的51席連自己過去的承諾都要別人實現,是有多無能XD
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曹步塽
民進黨只會提散會動議啦
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Wei-ming Chuang
曹步塽 民進黨算哪根蔥?世界偉人國昌老師配上花蓮王,剛好而已啊!
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Backyo Chen
Wei-ming Chuang 嘻嘻,輸太久只好來精神自慰一下
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Wei-ming Chuang
Backyo Chen 對啊,國蔥老師贏最多了,汐止怯戰神到現在變成傅皇的心肝寶貝!
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Liu Kai Hong
楊亭皓 呃,5/17的議程中有包含三個法案中的兩個,只不過因為民進黨進行議事杯葛,才沒有討論到
Liu Kai Hong
楊亭皓 廢監察院就是只為了將監委的權力收入立委手中!這樣一來,如果以後民進黨國會多數,國眾兩黨掌握行政權,民進黨就可以用彈劾權搞死官員,這是你樂見的嗎?
Liu Kai Hong
曹步塽 你連議事杯葛都不知道,還想評論立院現況,好像猴子學人穿衣服,好好笑
楊亭皓
柳凱宏你的意思是,民進黨以前提廢煎茶院只是為了收權力囉?不過看看前8年的狀況,煎茶院有沒有權力好像根本沒差欸:)
有什麼不樂見的,不看政治立場,國會不過半、朝小野大才是我期許的國家體制喔
楊亭皓
柳凱宏反過來說,看著不再是民選機構的煎茶院淪為酬庸機關,我們還要浪費錢養這些人,這是你樂見的嗎?
Liu Kai Hong
楊亭皓 民進黨提出的是廢考監,意圖要將憲法制度變成三權分立,但是修憲門檻是三分之二以上,之所以沒有做到,就是因為席次不夠,加上國民黨沒有要廢考監
Liu Kai Hong
楊亭皓 連高中生都知道監察委員不是民選的啊!是孫文制定五權憲法的啊!你怎麼不問他?
楊亭皓
柳凱宏呃,一個自己人塞好塞滿的前政府,說她真心想廢煎茶院,你敢說我還不敢信欸,加上最近國會改革風波,民進黨竟然強調起了,還是說終於想起了煎茶院,這像是要廢的態度?
楊亭皓
柳凱宏81年5月第2屆國民大會集會,通過憲法增修條文,規定監察院設監察委員29人,並以其中1人為院長,1人為副院長,任期6年,由總統提名,經國民大會同意任命之。 自此以後,監察委員之產生,改由總統提名,經國民大會同意任命(之後改為立法院同意)之,不再由地方議會「選舉」產生。
楊亭皓
柳凱宏高中生不知道煎茶委員有過選舉的方式產生很正常,但閣下不像是高中生吧
Liu Kai Hong
楊亭皓 了解!長知識了!謝謝補充!
不過你到底知不知道5/17的議程中有包含三個法案中的兩個,只不過因為民進黨進行議事杯葛,才沒有討論到
楊亭皓
柳凱宏你主詞也順便標一下啦,謝謝,不然一時之間看不懂。
Den Lee
這年頭要分辨是否反串真難
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Yi-Fen Zheng
擋到別人的利益,才會被這樣想方設法地要弄死他,是否違憲是大法官決定,台灣現在人人都是大法官,人人都是資安專家
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吳俊賢
所以從政後就越來越不像怪物囉?畢竟沒辦法一週7天一天16小時讀書跑統計寫文章,要開直播、拍影片、開會、管黨務嘛。
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Hiroshi Luo
Dave Chen 阿不然咧?當初NCC就違法被法院判決敗訴,照當時對付中天的標準,三民自也一樣要被下架了好嗎。
Hiroshi Luo
Dave Chen 整個機構從完全執政以來就失能到一個沒啥用的地步還擴權,官員還只會裝死說謊,搞到只能用立法院擴權的手段來讓政府權力正常化,阿不就執政黨自己搞出來的?還好意思出來講,呵呵
Hiroshi Luo
Dave Chen 同樣的事情你可以拿去講鏡傳媒,真的是龜笑鱉無尾,五十步笑百步
Liu Kai Hong
Hiroshi Luo 國昌老師就反紅媒啊!你忘記了嗎?還記得柯文哲都喜歡從後門見蔡旺旺!怎麼辦!兩個人要吵架了啦!
Liu Kai Hong
Hiroshi Luo 對了,你還沒回答我下面這樣的歷程叫做逐條審查嗎?你到底有沒有用功看國昌老師最喜歡的IVOD啦?
在司法委員會時,吳宗憲當召委時,民進黨方針對國眾黨版本提出異議時,吳宗憲直接保留送院會;鍾佳濱當召委時,要討論民進黨版本,國眾兩黨直接提散會,不僅無法討論民進黨版本,更無法送出院會。
Hiroshi Luo
柳凱宏 真搞笑,民進黨自己不提自己的版本,怪別人囉?是有人自己不想審,是在牽拖什麼呢?臉腫成這樣還在凹啊?
Dave Chen
Hiroshi Luo
又來一發囉,我想白蔥老師這個降低罷免門檻的推手,應該對提高門檻「是可忍孰不可忍」吧,還是比較不可忍別人沒看他直播?呵
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Hiroshi Luo
Dave Chen 畢竟比起這種事情,國會改革顯然更重要啊,阿不然也可以噴他怎麼現在沒靠北勞基法修惡少七天假?
事實就是主流民意比起這些鳥事,更重視的就是行政首長不是說謊就是講幹話搓圓仔湯,能搞到這樣只能說感謝蘇光頭「在那叫什麼」「不必去查」還有什麼「3+11我負責」以及超思資本額、快篩小吃店,林全東洋BNT案囉。不然那能讓民怨堆積到從817完全執政玩到現在這樣,這都得感謝你們這些同溫層欸。
Chen Thomas
張一 你標準這麼低啊?每個黨派派一個人說三分鐘嗎?
Pin-Shiang Wang
護航成這樣,難怪被說某研究所喝露水不食人間煙火。
Karla Smiley
Pin-Shiang Wang 總比你喝餿水強
吳豪人
雖然不知道怪物是如何煉成的,不過已經知道怪物的三民主義是如何煉成的了。
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